Dr. Joanne Banks, lecturer and researcher in inclusive education at the School of Education in Trinity College Dublin, and Dr. Heidrun Demo, Associate Professor for inclusive education and Director of the Competence Centre for School inclusion at the Free University of Bolzano (Italy), talk about inclusive systems of education and Heidrun Demo discusses her work on the historical factors that shaped the Italian education system which operates a full inclusion model where all children are educated together. She finishes the interview with some words of caution about recent changes to the categorisation of students with additional learning needs in Italy and argues for more research on the academic and social outcomes of students with disabilities in mainstream education.